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Posted 30 December 2008 – 05:51 PM

At this point I am leaning toward using HAI UPB, HAI by Leviton, Simply Automated UPB, UPB phase coupler, UPB PIM UPB UPStart, for my lighting solution. Home automation, Simply Automated UPB, I currently have a OmniIIe installed. Are these the correct components I need to get my lights off the ground:

1) UPB Powerline Interface 36A00-1 – Interfaces HAI to the electrical infrastructure
2) Cable to connect the Interface to the OmniIIe board Unknown part Number
3) PC Access Software (Installer version) Unknown part number – Used to configure the switches?
4) Assorted switches as needed

So, I would plug the Interface in, connect it to the board, install a switch, then use the PC Access software to set up the switch? Would it at that point show up in Snaplink/H@me?

Thanks in advance for the help!

 


#2 JamesF

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Posted 31 December 2008 – 12:48 PM

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1) UPB Powerline Interface 36A00-1 – Interfaces HAI to the electrical infrastructure

Correct! It also comes with the cable needed to connect to the IIe

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2) Cable to connect the Interface to the OmniIIe board Unknown part Number

See above.

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3) PC Access Software (Installer version) Unknown part number – Used to configure the switches?

1105W. Isn’t used to configure the switches but very helpful in setting up the panel. You will need to name the switches and this will make your life easier.

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4) Assorted switches as needed

Commonly used part numbers below.
35A00-1 – 600W Dimmer
38A00-1 – Scene Controller
38A00-1 – House Controller
40A00-1 – 15A Relay Switch

You may also need a phase coupler which is part number 39A00-1. Not all homes need a phase coupler but it is recommended for most installations.

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So, I would plug the Interface in, connect it to the board, install a switch, then use the PC Access software to set up the switch? Would it at that point show up in Snaplink/H@me?

Connect the cable from the PIM to the IIe via the supplied cable. Next open PC Access (1105W) and name all your switches under Setup > Names and Voices. When doing this be aware that the first unit of each “Room” (8 Units in a room) is reserved for a Scene Controller. If you don’t have a Scene Controller you should just give it a generic name, IE Downstairs, Living Room, Outdoor Lighting, etc… (This applies to units 1, 9, 17, 25, 33, ….)

Next you want to set your House Codes to HAI Lighting. This can be done under Setup > Misc > Control. Each house code is 16 units (2 rooms of 8 Units).

Now under Setup > Installer > Expansion set the correct serial port function to UPB.

Once all that is done, download the file to the panel.

Now to configure a switch you first go put the switch into setup mode. This is done by taping the rocker 5 times quickly. The load should then flash once and the LED on the switch will begin to blink. Now go back to a keypad and hit the “6” button (Status) then “1” button (Control) and scroll down to the name of the light you just put into setup mode. Once there hit the “#” key twice to configure the switch.

EDIT: Just saw the last part of your question.

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Would it at that point show up in Snaplink/H@me?

The switches will actually show up in Snaplink/H@me as soon as name the switches and download them, however without configuring them properly they won’t be functional.

Edited by JamesF, 31 December 2008 – 12:54 PM.

 


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Posted 31 December 2008 – 08:40 PM

Thanks for the detailed response!

Time to order and see what all I can break!

 


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Posted 31 December 2008 – 09:50 PM

If you are looking for some books to help you understand how a lot of this fits together, try the book “UPB Home Control Manual” by Robert Bucceri. I found it very helpful when I got started. A lot of the material you get with parts tell you how to hook stuff up but it does not tell you why it works the way it does. This book helps along those lines. It also offers a lot of sample setups which will give you ideas on how you may want to set up your own system.
 

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Posted 01 January 2009 – 01:21 PM

Anyone know where the “Upstart” software comes from? Is that needed for anything?

Edited by nexus99, 01 January 2009 – 01:21 PM.

 


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Posted 01 January 2009 – 05:15 PM

UpStart is used to fully configure UPB switches and run all kinds of tests, etc. I believe you can do basic config from within the HAI stuff, but here is a link for UpStart.
 

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Posted 01 January 2009 – 08:52 PM

Keep in mind that, if it makes ordering any easier, the dimmers can be configured as switches (and vise versa) via UpStart. It makes it really easy if you switch out to CFL’s or LED’s or the like in a given fixture. Also, HLC sucks. Use UpStart. You have to be a bit creative but it allows for truly elegant control over scenes whereas HLC is a serious kludge. HAI most likely won’t support your UpStart programming if you need it, though. Lastly, consider buying PCS UPB devices. HAI hasn’t bothered to implement all the changes that GenII offers.
 


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Posted 02 January 2009 – 01:07 AM

AnthonyZ, on Jan 1 2009, 05:52 PM, said:

Keep in mind that, if it makes ordering any easier, the dimmers can be configured as switches (and vise versa) via UpStart. It makes it really easy if you switch out to CFL’s or LED’s or the like in a given fixture. Also, HLC sucks. Use UpStart. You have to be a bit creative but it allows for truly elegant control over scenes whereas HLC is a serious kludge. HAI most likely won’t support your UpStart programming if you need it, though. Lastly, consider buying PCS UPB devices. HAI hasn’t bothered to implement all the changes that GenII offers.

A couple of questions:
1) So all UPB switches can be configured as a “switch” or a “dimmer”? That is pretty cool.
2) HLC is the HAI version of UPB switches?
3) Is PCS the authority that creaed UPB?
4) Could I use the HAI PIM with a special cable to connect to my PC and program using Upstart?

Thanks!

 


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Posted 02 January 2009 – 09:54 AM

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1) So all UPB switches can be configured as a “switch” or a “dimmer”? That is pretty cool.

Correct. Just remember that relay switches will never be able to dim.

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2) HLC is the HAI version of UPB switches?

HLC is a lighting control format created by HAI to make the UPB installation easier on our panels. Anthony is correct that if you want extravagant scenes and such, it is much better to use UPStart to do your programming, however if you want it to be easy the HLC format is the way to go. With the HLC lighting format for most installations you would rarely, if ever, have to touch UPStart.

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3) Is PCS the authority that creaed UPB?

Yes, PCS is the creator of the UPB technology. However, all HAI switches are compliant with the specifications set up by PCS. Also, unlike what Anthony said above, all current HAI switches are GenII compliant.

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4) Could I use the HAI PIM with a special cable to connect to my PC and program using Upstart?

Yes. You could either build the adapter/cable yourself or use HAI part number 36A05-2.

In addition if you do not like the HLC lighting format for your UPB installation HAI does support UPStart for all HAI Lighting Devices.

Edited by JamesF, 02 January 2009 – 10:02 AM.

 


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Posted 02 January 2009 – 05:00 PM

JamesF, on Jan 2 2009, 10:54 AM, said:

Yes, PCS is the creator of the UPB technology. However, all HAI switches are compliant with the specifications set up by PCS. Also, unlike what Anthony said above, all current HAI switches are GenII compliant.

That is NOT what I said. I said that HAI has not implemented all of the features of GenII and they haven’t. Yes, they are GenII compliant and it does make a big difference but PCS does offer more features (at a generally higher price).

 


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Posted 07 January 2009 – 10:43 AM

JamesF, on Jan 2 2009, 09:54 AM, said:

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Yes. You could either build the adapter/cable yourself or use HAI part number 36A05-2.

Do you know the pinout of a PIM to PC cable?

 

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Posted 07 January 2009 – 03:57 PM

Pinout For PIM
 

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Posted 08 January 2009 – 05:53 PM

Lajaycee, on Jan 7 2009, 03:57 PM, said:

Pinout For PIM

Exactly what I needed, thanks!

 

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Posted 08 January 2009 – 10:42 PM

Now that 3.0 has been released I pulled the trigger on PC Access, a UPB PIM, and a switch. Next thing will be 40 more switches maybe 🙂

Anyone know a good place to get a bulk deal on the switches?

 


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Posted 14 February 2010 – 04:43 PM

I just started to connect a “test” UPB setup with three switches and a USB PIM. I also purchased the HAI OmniPro PIM. I used upstart and all went well. I can control one test switch with upstart. Trying to setup HAI PIM and having some issues. I programmed UPB switch per above. I get “finding module” then “Unknown module”. If I try to turn on and off module via PCA or via console the UPB switch doesn’t respond. I wonder what I am doing wrong. When I send a command via PCA I see the signal bar go all the way across (good signal). The UPB network address and password match what I have in Upstart. Any suggestions?

 

 

About UPB Technology

UPB technology provides an inexpensive and reliable solution for residential and commercial powerline communications applications. While other powerline communication technologies exist, none compare to UPB in cost per node, functionality and reliability.

Highly Reliable — The UPB method of communication is 100 ~ 1000 times more reliable than current X-10 technology and 10 ~100 times more reliable than CEBUS or LONWORKS powerline technologies.  UPB is 99.9% reliable versus 70%-80% reliability of X-10.*

UPB transmits farther (over a mile), is less susceptible to powerline noise and capacitive attenuation (signal reduction) than other technologies for three reasons:

Pulse Position Modulation is a highly reliable time based method of sending bits; it narrows the possibility of power line noise affecting communication, unlike X-10 and other carrier modulation technologies.

UPB pulses on the power line are approximately 40 volts; more than five times greater than the 5 to 7 volt signals of X-10.

UPB transmits at low (4 to 40 kHz) frequencies, carrying much more power than higher frequency technologies like X-10 that transmits at 120 kHz.

When put on one phase of a home’s two phase power line, the signals are so strong they go out to the street side transformer and are induced on the opposite phase, returning back to the home.  Since UPB transmits at a low frequency, it does not affect other powerline devices or appliance/loads.

No New Wires – UPB dimmer switches are installed exactly like regular dimmer switches.  They connect to a home’s standard wiring. Since no new or special wiring is required, they work great in retrofit applications too.

Affordable — UPB dimmer switches can be as affordable as high end non-communicating dimmers.  When comparing costs of home upgrades (theater TV, remodeled bath or kitchen) adding lighting automation and control to a room or whole home provides a surprising improvement in quality of life at a comparably low cost.

Simplicity – Adding lighting control can be as simple as plugging in dimming modules or replacing dimming switches Pre-Configured Series. Unlike radio frequency (RF) wireless switches, where reliability is proportional to the number of ‘mess-networked’ switches installed, UPB provides reliability and performance anywhere in the home without the need of repeaters.       

Peer to Peer – No host computer or central controller is necessary for single, point-to-point control or group (lighting scene) control.  UPB is a no-host, peer to peer network.  Interruption of power, or single point controller/repeater failure, will not affect a stand-alone UPB network.

Two Way Communications – Hardware, software and protocol design allows for two-way communication in all products.  Status can be confirmed with polling or automatically transmitted upon local/manual load changes.  

House Separation – Neighbors with UPB will not control each other’s lights.  The UPB addressing scheme allows for 250 systems (houses) on each transformer and 250 devices on each system. It incorporates over 64,000 total addresses compared to 256 for conventional X-10.

Interaction – UPB communication can be used in the presence of all X-10, CEBus, HomePlug or LonWorks compatible equipment with no interference between either. The UPB technology uses a completely different frequency range than any of the wide-band, narrow-band, or spread spectrum technologies. The physical method of UPB communication is entirely different than the modulation-demodulation techniques of all X-10, CEBus, or LonWorks.

Higher Speed – 20 to 40 times the speed of X- 10 in terms of data transmitted. This is equivalent to over ten full commands per second. The average latency of command to action is less than 0.1 second.

 

UPB System Description X-10 to UPB Migration

 

* Reliability is defined as the percentage of transmitter/receiver pairs that correctly operate upon initial installation. The UPB test units are randomly installed in the environment typical of the target market. This market is defined as the single-family residential market in the US, homes with a median size of 2500 Sq, Ft. This environment is defined to be the existing base of homes, without any modifications, which means there should be no “fixing” the electrical system of the residence by adding couplers, repeaters or filtering

One comment on “HAI UPB Install, Home Automation Inc, HAI, CocoonTech

  1. layjaycee on said:

    cocoontech feedback really helped with my hai install, will use again

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